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​When Did Looking Away Become an Option?

Silence isn’t neutral, on a campus or in a clothes-free space.

Bystander apathy. A woman sitting on the floor of a dimly lit room, holding her head in her hands, conveying a sense of distress. A bed and a stack of books are visible in the background.

I know many are waiting for part 3 of our series we were working on. But its not quite finished yet and something else has been bothering me for a bit now. ​I sat down and thought long and hard about whether we should even write this article, and who should be the one to write it. I decided Corin should sit this one out.

​We’ve written about this topic many times before. Corin wrote about what it’s like navigating these spaces from a woman’s perspective in I Still Scan the Room. We’ve broken down the fundamental rules of trust in Consent and Safety Are Non-Negotiable in Naturism and How Men Can Help Women Feel Welcome in Clothes-Free Spaces. And I spoke directly to fellow men in What Men Don’t See.

​Based on some of the responses we received in those article, I know what writing this will mean. Because we have felt the wrath before. Corin especially. We’ve received the comments, the direct messages, and the eye-rolls from some who think discussing safety, consent, and basic human decency in naturist spaces is somehow an attack on them. Every time we touch this topic, a handful of subscribers drop off or leave angry notes on their way out the door. ​I know it will happen with this article too. So let’s get that out of the way right off the top. If me standing here and saying these things makes you want to hit the unsubscribe button… don’t let the door hit you on the way out. I am not interested in maintaining an audience at the expense of my own integrity, nor am I going to stay quiet just to keep the comment section comfortable.

Yet as I read the news and watch the comments pouring in across social media regarding the Cornell 7, I realized I had to write again. Some of the commentary floating around social media right now is utterly disgusting. It’s what we see in the broader culture that isn’t all that different from what occasionally bubbles up right in our own comment sections.

​​Whenever Corin or I write about safety, a specific subset of people pops up with the same predictable script. Some take a dismissive, patronizing approach, telling us the topic is “repetitive” or dismissing it as “women moaning about men”. Others fly into an absolute rage, screaming about “misandry” and declaring that if a woman feels uncomfortable, they “don’t give a fuck”. They will do “whatever the fuck they want”. They act as if asking men to be mindful, active participants in standard safety is an unbearable burden that ruins their personal freedom.

For anyone who hasn’t followed the case… a former Cornell student has sued seven Chi Phi fraternity members and the university, alleging she was drugged and raped in October 2024. The men deny wrongdoing, and as of this writing, none has been criminally charged. The district attorney has reopened the case.

​This isn’t about what happened between Jane Doe and the first men involved. What makes my skin crawl is the fact that a group of about fifty men were messaged through Snapchat to join. A handful of them decided to treat this woman as an invitation. The rest seem to have decided that stopping it was too awkward to bother with or never saw the initial message.

It makes me sick to my stomach.

As far as has been reported… not one called the campus police. Not one picked up a phone to see if a human being in serious trouble needed help. Potentially fifty men sat on their thumbs, looked at a message of a potentially vulnerable woman, and treated her predicament as entertainment, or simply not their problem.

​When did seeing a vulnerable woman or any vulnerable person become an opportunity instead of a responsibility for us? When did we decide it wasn’t our job to protect people who might need help? When did turning a blind eye become acceptable practice? Look at what this story actually lays out there. It isn’t just an isolated tragedy involving a couple of people. It shows a complete collapse of basic human decency across the board.

​What has modern digital culture done to us? We’ve reached a point where human suffering gets filtered through a smartphone screen and treated like a fucking spectator sport. If a guy sends a group message to fifty of his peers stating “free pussy” upstairs, he isn’t treating her like a person. He’s treating her like an object. Like content. And the guys reading on the other end feel so removed behind their little screens that they treat it like a show instead of a potential crime happening to a real human being in real time.

​To make it worse, whenever something like this happens, some in the culture immediately turn around and blame the woman for being there in the first place. She had been drinking. She came to the house. She was in the room. As if walking into a space or trusting someone means you signed a contract waiving your right to safety. Being present in a room is not consent, and using a woman’s voluntary presence is not justification for preying on her.

Then comes the question I see some ask. Why did she put herself in that position?

According to her lawsuit, she went to visit a friend. Even if every choice she made that night was a bad one, none of them was an invitation. Advice to be careful is fine, but it’s a different thing from assigning blame. The question that matters isn’t why she was in that room. It’s why a group chat full of men who saw a message about what was happening… chose to do nothing. And to the people saying everyone knows what frat houses are like. If that’s true, then everyone who runs them knew too. Common knowledge that a place is dangerous isn’t a reason to blame the people it hurts. It’s a reason to ask why the fuck was it still open.

​And then there’s the pathetic excuse of minding your own business. We’ve let men convince themselves that as long as they aren’t the one actively laying a hand on someone, their hands are clean. That is complete bullshit. Silence is permission. They care more about avoiding an awkward conversation with their frat brothers than they do about a woman’s life in trouble.

Consent is a clear, enthusiastic, uncoerced “yes.” It is not a puzzle, not an obstacle to get past, and never something you assume.

  • It’s very clear. If someone is hesitant, quiet, or going along just to get it over with, that’s a “no.” Silence is not a yes.
  • It’s free. There needs to be zero pressure, zero guilt-tripping, zero manipulation. If you have to ask ten times until they give in, that’s a “no.”
  • It’s informed. Both people must know exactly what’s happening. Consent obtained through lies or tricks isn’t real consent.
  • It’s specific. A yes to one thing is not a yes to everything. Being undressed, friendly, or at a resort is not a yes to anything.
  • It can be withdrawn. Yes five minutes ago, or yesterday, or earlier in the night, is not a free pass. The moment someone wants to stop, everything stops. Period.
  • It can’t come from someone who’s incapacitated. Passed out, unable to speak or walk clearly, drifting in and out of consciousness. That person cannot consent, and anything done to them is a violation.

And in every case: if there’s any doubt, any silence, any hesitation, the answer is NO!

The part that truly hurts my heart is that this isn’t new. It isn’t the first time, and it won’t be the last. ​If you spend ten minutes reading through the comments and social media posts from women reacting to this case, you quickly realize there are thousands upon thousands of Jane Does out there. Every single woman in your life likely has a story, whether she’s ever told you or not.

​I recently watched a video of a seminar with about two hundred women in the room. The speaker asked a simple question: How many of you have been sexually assaulted, or know a close friend or family member who was? ​Over ninety-five percent of the room stood up. ​Think about that for a second. Almost every single woman in that room stood on her feet. ​Then the speaker asked everyone who didn’t report it or knew it was never reported to police or authorities to sit back down. ​Ninety percent of the room sat right back down.

​That is the reality women live with every day. They get hurt, they get targeted, they get exploited, and then they carry the burden in complete silence because they know what the world does to women who speak up. They know they’ll be interrogated, blamed, dismissed, or told they’re “moaning about men”. So they sit back down. They keep it to themselves. And the men who stood by, watched, or participated walk away without a scratch.

If you have never seen this video of the seminars by Brittany Piper, please take a moment to watch this.

Brittany Piper Instagram video.

Why raise this on a naturist blog? Because it’s the principle behind everything we write about safety. About consent. And about respect. Just last month we also wrote about what happens when the passive majority stops being the ones to teach and enforce the rules and boundaries. The Cornell case is that dynamic at its extreme. The rules existed… and according to other students, so did the warning signs. The fraternity became a place where nobody was managing the culture anymore. Responsibility spread the way it does on a crowded beach, with everyone assuming someone else would act. But nobody did.

A person’s state is never an invitation. Just like being undressed in a clothes-free space doesn’t make anyone available, neither does being drunk, or drugged, or alone in a room. Shared spaces stay safe because the people in them look out for each other and speak up when something is wrong. What the lawsuit describes at Cornell was exploiting physical and chemical vulnerability for power and entertainment. That trust cannot survive in a culture where men treat bystander apathy as neutrality.

​To the guys who complain that talking about safety in naturist spaces is “repetitive”… we will stop writing about it when men stop standing by while women are harmed. If reading about safety inconveniences you, imagine how exhausting it is for women to actually have to navigate the complete lack of it. You cannot demand the freedom of a shared, open space without accepting an ounce of the responsibility required to keep that space safe for everyone else.

​As men, we have a responsibility. Not to be white knights or overbearing authority figures, but to be decent human beings who step up when something isn’t right. If you see a guy acting out of line, call him out. If you see someone in trouble, pick up the phone. Stop worrying about making things awkward for other men, and start worrying about the safety of the people around you.

​None of this is an attack on all men, and certainly not on all young men. Many of the guys in a chat like that are college students, raised in a culture that taught them plenty about loyalty and status and almost nothing about what to do when a friend crosses a line. We teach boys not to commit crimes. We rarely teach them the courage to confront others including their own friends, or that a phone call might be the bravest thing they do all week. That’s a failure of ours, not only theirs, and it’s fixable. Receiving a message, knowing someone is in danger or incapacitated, and choosing to do nothing is not “staying out of drama.” It is active protection of the perpetrator over the victim.

​Corin and I will keep writing stories that impact how we look at naturism for as long as they need to be written. If that makes our blog a little less comfortable sometimes for some, so be it. We’d rather support building a community of men and women who look out for one another than pander to people who think looking the other way is an acceptable way to live.

Kevin

Ournaturistlife.com


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  1. Hi, Your link to the Brittany Piper Instagram video. Is not working for me. Using Edge on a Win11 PC if that is relevant.

  2. Thanks for writing! It is, what it is! As with anything, those who hold the power are the main ones who need to make the change. In this case, you make a good point about men standing up to change this culture of patriarchy and dominance. It involves how we treat our wives and daughters. But, it must start with how we talk to our sons. We must start early, and we must be consistent. Until we are willing to walk with the females in our society and work to change the narrative, men taking advantage of women will continue. No more silence

  3. “when the passive majority stops being the ones to teach and enforce the rules and boundaries.”

    What is also disturbing is how that mindset is expanding to everyday life, the erosion of the basic “social contract”.

    It had been happening for years, but really accelerated during the pandemic. Calling out those breaking the rules and crossing the boundaries has dwindled as people raised more on screens and less on in-person interaction have naturally become averse to confrontation. During the pandemic, calling those things out started being met with hostility and even violent responses.

    I’ve called out people in traffic who endangered me (I’m a biker), and been met with hostility and even once a person actively retaliating by trying to run me off the road.

    How does this pertain to your post? It’s making people less and less likely to try to enforce the rules and boundaries. Thus the rules erode. The “bad guys” become more emboldened. The behaviors escalate.

    Add that to those who ALREADY felt entitled to assault women and ALREADY got off without repercussions, and it makes it even more dangerous.

    It also means those of us who see this behavior happening have even more of a duty to do something about it. It has and will continue to get worse, and those who could speak up will dwindle more and more.

    We have to be willing to stand up for what is right, even more now than ever. We can’t expect much support, either. Sadly, violent responses have scared many people off. When a person is shot and killed for calling out another for not wearing a mask when required, many will fear standing up to someone actively doing far worse.

    This societal decline has been bothering me for some time. I don’t know the answer to fixing it, just that the examples at the “top” in our society currently display the worst behaviors and encourage them, and they escape accountability themselves. That only emboldens others.

    The military taught me that the example set at the top of the chain of command sets the standard for how the entire crew will behave. So I fear it won’t get better any time soon.

    Yes, the problem you write of predates our current situation. But our current situation is actively making it WORSE.

    The best we can do for now is to strive to be the example of what is right, and to have the courage to stand for what is right even in the face of a society that is tacitly indicating that bad behavior is acceptable.

  4. Cornell 7 is a disgusting story.Not in a million years would I think that several people would sit there while someone is being raped! What has happened to society to allow such a travesty ?
    Having daughters and grand daughters this really hits home. I would not let these pathetic, weak, so called men get away with this!.Prayers for all sexual assaulted victims.

  5. I’m a man — have been for decades — first knew it when I met Jo Ann in first grade.
    I gotta admit that sometimes I’m not man enough to step in when I should, though I usually realize it late and regret it.
    Maybe appreciating femininity involves protecting, or at least safeguarding, them more.
    Elizabeth Barrett Browning’s sonnet, The Lady’s Yes, suggests the tenuousness of a conversation between a woman and a man.
    I need to do better with women and with men.
    Verygary

  6. And this is exactly why naturism isn’t gender-balanced despite a century of effort! If women aren’t safe anywhere, and they’re not, why should they believe us when we say they’re safe at our venues and events? Especially with the number of “naturist men” who abuse them in private messages? And yes, sending “d!ck pics” without a clear invitation to do so is sexual abuse. There. I said it and I stand by it.

    May I (literally) share the fuck out of this?

  7. GREAT COMMENT – and so necessary.

    My wife was abused as a child (of 7) by her 15-year-old cousin, then raped by her “boyfriend” at 14 (he is still a family friend, well, not ours). These and other events in her life growing up have left scars, that 50 years later still trigger her, especially when we hear the news of other women who have been attacked, molested, raped….

    MEN (and I say this as a man) are a problem. Our society is not dealing with it and the current US administration is pushing us in the wrong direction.

    Thank you for this article.

    Chip

  8. I consider this blog post to be immensely important and worthy of attention. I am sincerely ashamed of this minority of my fellow men.

    Jörg Welzel

  9. Well you know a true blue Christian don’t need the laws of man. He has the laws of the Lord! Now hear me out. If a true Christian man goes into a naturists space as you explain it, he would say this is what heaven is like! A true nudist setting is about respect and dignity for yourself and others. Am I right? If these colleges would embrace respect and dignity like a true Christian does and that they give knowledge that there’s true consequences for their actions, there would not have a problem. Just like in the nudist spaces a woman can go nude everywhere and enjoy herself because she knows there’s a safety net there. The safety net is the true Christian philosophy! Love your post!

    1. Thanks for reading Robert.

      ​I agree with you that respect, dignity, and real consequences for bad behavior are essential for creating a safe space. ​That said, I don’t think safety or basic decency belong to any single faith or philosophy. History shows us that terrible things have been done, and excused, under every banner, including religion.

      ​At the end of the day, protecting vulnerable people and standing up against harm isn’t a “Christian philosophy”. It’s a fundamental human responsibility. It applies to everyone, whether they sit in a church pew, practice another faith, or hold no religious beliefs at all. True safety happens when people of all backgrounds choose to hold themselves and each other accountable.

      1. True That! But the Christian philosophy I was talking about was to love and respect others as well as you do yourself. Which is also a basic human philosophy. Thanks for your response. Love it!

  10. This is a somewhat depressing article that seems mainly about sexual exploitation, rather than naturism. Sex simply has no place in naturism.
    However I freely admit I do ‘scan the room’, as I love talking to and looking at attractive women. As for being ‘unnoticed’, surely that’s the last thing some women want when they go to some much trouble to make themselves noticeable!
    We have just back from a wonderful holiday at a naturist resort in Crete and I saw absolutely no instances of inappropriate behaviour.

    1. Thanks for the comment, Hugh, and I’m glad you had a wonderful time in Crete. Good resorts are out there, and I agree that sex has no place in naturism. I’d gently push back on a couple of points.
      We’ve written that looking is human and that being seen can feel good. Our article “Why We Look” says exactly that. The line we draw is intention. A respectful glance says “I see you,” while a lingering one sizes someone up. Most women groom, dress, and carry themselves for their own confidence, not to be assessed. Being seen as a person is very different from being scanned and evaluated whenever someone feels like it, and many women live under that gaze every day. Naturist spaces are supposed to be where it stops. When Corin wrote about “scanning the room,” it’s a safety check women do. She is working out whether it’s safe to relax, while I’m looking for where to sit or where the washroom is.
      On not seeing anything inappropriate… that’s the point I wrote in “What Men Don’t See”. Many women are keenly aware of where eyes are wandering, even when the men around them think everything is going smoothly. Not noticing something doesn’t mean the women in the room felt the same way.
      I know this one was a heavy read. It’s about what keeps naturist spaces safe, and that depends on everyone paying attention. Thanks for reading and engaging.

      1. I understand [as much as a man can] where you are coming from, Corin. However [again as a man], I like looking at attractive women, most of all my wonderful wife, particularly when they are naked. I have never received an adverse reaction to this and, if I perceived they were in any way uncomfortable, I would look away.
        Women are from Venus and men are from Mars, of course!

  11. I can’t believe you are surprised ! Look at the PIG that’s “ running the country “.a convicted rapist.Don’t stop putting out these blogs.good for you

  12. Kevin,
    THANK YOU for writing this! Somewhere in the past, some parents stopped teaching their sons to respect women. There isn’t any excuse for men to not respect women, but do you think that the women’s liberation movement had a part in that?

    1. I don’t think so, it simply drew a line in the sand. Either men choose to support women or they don’t. We now know, increasingly so, where they stand. It gives us something to fight and educate against.

    2. Thanks, I appreciate that. I actually see it the other way around. The women’s liberation movement happened because of how women were being treated. No vote, limited property rights, closed doors at work. It was a response to disrespect, not the cause of it. I don’t think respect was ever reliably taught, which is part of why the movement was needed.

      1. I wholeheartedly agree! My comment was in regards to the current moment. The WLM was monumental! It was necessary and painful for many oppressors, like that of the end of slavery, the civil rights act, and the voting rights act, some of which have been greatly diminished in the last few of years.

        1. I’m no expert on the movement, and it means different things to different people. I think it’s a mix. The core goals of safety, respect, and equal treatment haven’t changed, and a case like Cornell shows we’re not there yet. But like any large movement, it can also be loud online in ways that don’t represent everyone in it. What I do know is that the problem in the article doesn’t depend on the answer. Boys need to be taught to respect women and to speak up when a friend crosses a line. Whatever anyone thinks of feminism, that’s something we as men can do.

  13. Well said.
    Thank you for addressing this issue.
    Being young and full of testosterone is no excuse.
    There need to be a culture change and it needs to be driven by men.

  14. Well said. I was not in a frat in college, but I despised a few of them because they had reputations for date-raping young women. It made me sick to my stomach. Yes, I know, it’s not all frats, and it’s not all people within infected frats, but it is a disease that can spread if left unchecked. So yes, we all need to speak up against this disgusting lack of humanity.

  15. It is unfortunate this is a very important article regarding a terrible situation. Many men are still guilty of a neanderthal outlook regarding females. The occupants of powerful positions, including the president, prove this point. Innocent victims often are affected for life by a monstrous attack. Society still often protects the monsters and blames the victims. We are a very long way from equality and respect for everyone! I believe every young lady should take a self defense course, and be taught warning signs to watch for. Is this fair? Absolutely not! Is this just? Absolutely not! Is society changing for the benefit of females? Barely, if at all! All aspects of the subject of respect and safety and support need to be overhauled now! This should never be an issue, but reality is very ugly regarding the important characteristics of safety and personal freedom. WE ALL HAVE TO DO BETTER!

  16. well said..
    pity it needs to be said repeatedly,
    thank you for your advocacy, straight talking, and comprehensive coverage of fundamental issues

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