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Why we get nude with strangers but are afraid to tell our family and friends.

On Fear, Belonging, and the Culture We’re All Waiting For Someone Else to Change

Naturists Afraid to Tell Family. A woman sitting nude on a wooden chair in a natural setting, seen from behind, wearing a delicate veil and displaying a back tattoo.

We asked a simple question on social media: Why are so many naturists afraid to tell family and friends but feel completely comfortable being nude around strangers?

We expected a few responses. We got a bunch.

What came back wasnโ€™t just answers. It was relief, the kind that spills out when someone finally names the thing people have been carrying quietly for years. Comment after comment, different words, same fear. Fear that being seen this way would change something that had been comfortable for a long time, in ways that might not shift back. Some people had been naturists for decades and still hadnโ€™t told their siblings. Some had told almost nobody outside a naturist space. A few said it was the first time theyโ€™d actually put it into words.

The other thing we noticed was the defensiveness. Not from everyone, but enough that it stood out. It showed up in a few different shapes. Some people pushed back on the question itself, as if asking it at all was somehow an accusation. Some explained at length why their silence was reasonable, listing the specific circumstances that made their situation different, their reasons valid, their caution justified. And some just seemed irritated in a way that was hard to pin down, like the question had grazed something they weren’t quite ready to look at directly.

We’re not pointing that out as a criticism. Defensiveness usually means something real got touched. But it did make us think. Because if the question “why don’t you tell people?” produces that kind of reaction in a community that already shares this with each other, it says something about how much weight people are still carrying around it, even in spaces where they’re supposed to feel safe.

That surprised us. Not because the fear is irrational, weโ€™ve felt versions of it ourselves, but because of the sheer scale of it. This wasnโ€™t a few people being cautious. This was a lot of people living a significant part of their lives in careful silence, and feeling genuinely relieved that someone had asked out loud.

So we sat with those responses for a while. And we tried to write honestly about what we think is actually going on underneath them.

Strangers feel safer because they seem to carry less consequence

A lot of people answered this the simplest possible way: strangers feel easier because their opinions matter less. If someone at a beach or resort or club judges us, odds are we never see them again. They donโ€™t sit at our holiday table, carry history with us, or get to quietly reinterpret our character every time our name comes up in conversation. In that sense, strangers are emotionally cheaper. Their reactions might sting, but they donโ€™t tend to settle into our lives.

Thereโ€™s truth in that. Ongoing relationships carry more weight than passing encounters. A stranger can react badly and disappear. A family member can react badly and stay.

But that explanation assumes we choose to keep those people as strangers. And thatโ€™s where it starts to wobble.

In real naturist life, the people at clubs and beaches and resorts donโ€™t always stay anonymous. We see the same faces. We learn names. We talk. We laugh. We build familiarity, and sometimes something that looks a lot like friendship. If naturist spaces are supposed to be community, then treating those people as low-stakes strangers kind of misses the whole point of being there.

It also assumes that shared nudity is enough to make those spaces safe. It isnโ€™t. The people there might share one visible comfort, but they donโ€™t necessarily share our values beyond that. Not our ethics, our worldview, our understanding of what naturism actually means. So if we keep those so-called strangers at armโ€™s length because the distance is what makes them feel safe, maybe weโ€™re not building anything. Maybe weโ€™re just tourists in a safe room, chasing a freedom we havenโ€™t quite let ourselves have back home.

Thatโ€™s the harder truth underneath this answer. Maybe what feels safe isnโ€™t the strangers themselves. Maybe itโ€™s the temporary version of us that gets to exist around them. A version that can be physically open without having to weave that openness into the rest of our lives. And if thatโ€™s true, then what weโ€™re calling freedom might be a bit more fragile than weโ€™d like to think.

A couple embracing and smiling in a natural outdoor setting, captured in black and white.

The people closest to us arenโ€™t just hearing information. Theyโ€™re updating their picture of us.

This is where it gets more personal.

When we tell a stranger weโ€™re naturists, or undress somewhere itโ€™s already understood, thereโ€™s not much history to disturb. Theyโ€™re not holding this moment up against twenty years of family dinners, workplace habits, holiday traditions, the personality they think they already know. Theyโ€™re just meeting us somewhere nudity already has a place.

Friends and family are different. They donโ€™t just receive new information. They fit it into an existing story. And thatโ€™s where the fear tends to live, not always that theyโ€™ll reject us outright, but that theyโ€™ll start to see us differently. Less serious, less respectable, more sexual, more strange, more embarrassing. Once that shift happens, even quietly, it changes the feel of a relationship in ways that are hard to name and harder to reverse.

Thatโ€™s why this feels heavier than โ€œpeople might judge us.โ€ People can judge us for all kinds of things. But naturism carries symbolic baggage that most harmless choices donโ€™t. It gets overinterpreted. It becomes a statement about morality, sexuality, maturity, self-control. So the fear isnโ€™t just being known as someone who enjoys being nude. Itโ€™s being recast as someone else entirely.

And that reinterpretation has a particular texture. Nudity comes preloaded with meaning in most peopleโ€™s minds. Itโ€™s rarely allowed to just be neutral. So even when weโ€™re not ashamed of our bodies, we might still dread the story someone else is going to attach to them. That theyโ€™ll collapse a whole philosophy, a lifestyle, a genuine sense of comfort, into a stereotype. That a calm, non-sexual choice becomes, in their mind, a confession about our character.

This isnโ€™t paranoia. Naturism gets misread all the time, and most of us have learned through family or religion or culture or just one bad conversation that once nudity enters the picture, nuance tends to leave. If a harmless choice can be so easily misread by the people who know us best, then the problem isnโ€™t just that naturism is misunderstood. Itโ€™s that we live inside a social world full of meanings we didnโ€™t choose but still have to manage.

Weโ€™ve written before about the practical side of telling friends youโ€™re a naturist, and what those conversations can reveal about whoโ€™s actually willing to stay with the fuller version of you. โ€œWe Told Our Friends Weโ€™re Naturists. The Real Ones Stayed.โ€ But this question goes deeper than that. Itโ€™s asking why so many of us hesitate before the conversation even starts.

A fair counterpoint is that all close relationships work this way to some extent. Nobody is fully known. We all manage different sides of ourselves in different contexts, and that doesnโ€™t automatically make anything fake. Privacy is normal. Not every meaningful part of life needs to be shared with everyone to prove honesty.

We agree with that. Total openness isnโ€™t the test of love or friendship. But thereโ€™s still a line worth noticing. When a meaningful part of who we are feels too risky to name, not because itโ€™s harmful but because it might disturb the version of us people prefer, itโ€™s hard not to wonder what exactly is being protected. Is it privacy? Peace? Or a character weโ€™ve learned to keep performing because it makes things easier?

Itโ€™s an uncomfortable question. If the people closest to us only know the version that fits their expectations, do they actually know us? Or do they know the edited version that keeps life running smoothly?

For a lot of naturists, that might be the real tension. The fear isnโ€™t really about taking clothes off. Itโ€™s about what happens when the people we love have to rewrite the story they were already telling themselves about who we are.

Naturist spaces donโ€™t just expose us. They also explain us.

One reason naturist spaces feel easier has nothing to do with courage, and not much to do with closeness either. Itโ€™s about context.

At a beach or resort or club where nudity is already understood, we donโ€™t have to explain ourselves before we even arrive. The setting does some of that work. Our bodies arenโ€™t appearing out of nowhere in a culture that assumes nudity must mean something shocking or inappropriate. The environment has already framed the choice. Being nude there isnโ€™t treated as a personal confession. Itโ€™s just part of what people are there for.

In everyday life, telling someone weโ€™re naturists comes with an invisible second burden. Weโ€™re not just sharing a fact. Weโ€™re also bracing for the interpretation, the questions, the awkward pause, the need to clarify what we donโ€™t mean. We might end up explaining philosophy, boundaries, social norms, non-sexuality, body acceptance, or community just to keep the conversation from drifting somewhere it doesnโ€™t belong. In naturist spaces, most of that interpretive labor just disappears. The context carries the meaning.

That makes those spaces feel easier, but it also raises something worth thinking about.

Maybe what feels safe isnโ€™t freedom itself, but borrowed meaning. Maybe naturist spaces feel easier because the environment is doing the explaining we havenโ€™t yet learned, or dared, to do in the rest of our lives. If thatโ€™s true, the comfort is real, but itโ€™s also conditional. It depends on staying inside a place where our choice already makes sense to others. And it means that temporary version of us has a ceiling, because when we leave, we leave it behind too.

Weโ€™ve written before about the myth that naturist spaces are perfectly non-judgmental. Theyโ€™re not. โ€œTheyโ€™re Gonna Judge You Anywayโ€ฆ Part 2: Yes, Even the Naked Ones.โ€ People still notice and sort and react. The difference is that nudity itself is already socially explained in those spaces, even if the people inside them are just as human and imperfect as anywhere else. Nudity isnโ€™t sitting there as a symbol waiting to be decoded. It arrives with rules and expectations and a script everyone already knows. Outside those spaces, a lot of people feel like theyโ€™re writing that script from scratch every time.

So maybe part of what we call comfort is actually relief. Relief at being somewhere we donโ€™t have to defend or translate or soften this part of ourselves before it can be understood. That doesnโ€™t make the freedom false. But it might explain why it feels so much easier there than in the relationships where weโ€™re doing all the interpretive work ourselves.

A woman with long hair smiling while sitting on a couch, partially covered by a blanket, in a well-lit living room.

Is it privacy, or are we hiding?

At some point in this conversation, it usually splits.

Some people hear all of this and think, why does anyone need to know? Naturism, to them, is personal. Private. Contextual. Something they live, not something they owe anyone as an announcement. And honestly, thatโ€™s not an unreasonable place to be. We donโ€™t narrate every meaningful part of our lives to every friend or relative or coworker. Some things are just ours.

Not every silence is shame, and not every omission is dishonesty. Sometimes privacy is just privacy.

But the responses we got suggest itโ€™s not always that clean.

Thereโ€™s a difference between keeping something private because it feels personal, and keeping it private because it feels unsafe to let it be known. From the outside those two choices look identical. From the inside they feel completely different. One feels like ownership. The other feels like management. One says, this is mine and Iโ€™m choosing not to share it. The other says, this matters to me, but I donโ€™t trust what happens if you know.

If naturism is part of our values, our lifestyle, our relationship, our sense of who we are, then silence about it isnโ€™t always neutral. Sometimes itโ€™s strategic. Sometimes itโ€™s protective. Sometimes itโ€™s the quiet work of making sure nobody ever has to update their picture of us. That doesnโ€™t automatically make it wrong, but the silence is probably doing more emotional work than we like to admit.

Nobody lives completely unfiltered. We all adjust what we share based on context and closeness and how much we trust the person weโ€™re talking to. Thatโ€™s just ordinary social life. Nobody should feel pressured to announce themselves just to satisfy some ideal of radical transparency.

But itโ€™s still worth asking, privately, when we choose silence, what exactly are we protecting? Something personal that belongs to us? Or other people from having to wrestle with a truth about us that doesnโ€™t fit neatly into the version they prefer? Are we choosing privacy because it feels grounded and healthy or because somewhere along the way we learned that peace is easier when certain parts of us stay edited out?

Maybe the real question isn’t whether we tell people or not. Maybe it’s whether the silence feels like freedom or like cautionโ€ฆ like something chosen or something we just got used to living inside.

Sometimes what we fear most isnโ€™t judgment. Itโ€™s exile.

Strip these answers down far enough and a different word starts to appear.

Belonging.

A lot of the responses we got werenโ€™t really about nudity at all. They were about what happens after people know. The shift in tone. The awkwardness. The way someone looks at you slightly differently and you canโ€™t quite prove it but you feel it. The sense that youโ€™re still included, but not quite in the same way as before. Thatโ€™s why this feels bigger than embarrassment. Itโ€™s not just about being judged. Itโ€™s about being moved, from familiar to questionable. From one of us to, at least in some small way, becoming the โ€œotherโ€.

Most people can survive disagreement. Whatโ€™s harder is the possibility of altered belonging. That the people we love wonโ€™t necessarily reject us outright, but will quietly place us into a different category. And once that happens, relationships can start to feel subtly conditional. Weโ€™re still there, but with an asterisk.

That fear isnโ€™t irrational. Families, friendships, workplaces and churches all come with norms. Every community has its boundaries, spoken or not. Thatโ€™s just the cost of living differently from the people around you. But naturism exposes something particular, because for most of us itโ€™s such a harmless difference. Weโ€™re not talking about cruelty or betrayal or dishonesty. Weโ€™re talking about a peaceful, embodied choice that says more about comfort and values and freedom than it does about anything dangerous. So when something this unthreatening still feels risky to name, it surfaces a harder question.

How secure is belonging, if it depends on staying legible inside someone elseโ€™s comfort zone?

That might be why the fear feels so out of proportion to the actual thing. Weโ€™re not just protecting ourselves from conflict. Weโ€™re protecting our place, our role, and our ease within the family system. Keeping our ability to stay unremarkable in circles that tend to reward sameness more than honesty.

Belonging doesnโ€™t require full disclosure. Every relationship is partial. You donโ€™t have to hand people every part of yourself to still belong meaningfully with them. But what a lot of these responses describe isnโ€™t simple selectiveness. Itโ€™s the fear of becoming symbolically different in a way that changes the temperature of the relationship permanently. Thatโ€™s why judgment doesnโ€™t feel like quite the right word for it. Judgment can pass. Exile lingers, even when itโ€™s subtle. Even when nobody says it out loud.

Maybe thatโ€™s why this question cuts as deep as it does. Itโ€™s not asking whether weโ€™re brave enough to be nude. Itโ€™s asking whether we feel secure enough to stay ourselves inside the relationships that matter most.

And for a lot of people, thatโ€™s the harder vulnerability.

A woman with shoulder-length hair is seen in a black and white photograph, gently holding a flowing sheer fabric that partially drapes over her body. She appears contemplative, with a blurred natural background.

Final Thoughts

How do we ever change the culture if we canโ€™t even tell the people we love?

Thatโ€™s the tension sitting underneath everything in this article.

We think about this a lot. Specifically, we think about how many people are out there right now, on Instagram, on Facebook, in forums and groups and comment sections, who enjoy naturism and nudism, who engage with this community regularly, but whose real faces are nowhere to be seen. Hidden behind usernames, behind cropped photos, behind carefully managed anonymity.

Hereโ€™s the thing. You wouldnโ€™t even have to post a nude image. Not one. Just a face. Just a name. Just an ordinary person saying, yes, this is part of my life, and Iโ€™m not ashamed of it. We’ve written about this before, and why we think it might be the most important thing the naturist community could do right now. โ€œWhy Are We Hiding? Are We Sending the Wrong Message to the Next Generation?โ€

Imagine if even a fraction of those people did that. Imagine what it would do to the conversation when people started recognising not a stereotype, but their sister, their friend, their coworker, the couple from down the street theyโ€™ve known for years, the person from church, the colleague they respect, or the family member they love.

The fear of telling people makes sense when naturism feels like something that exists in a separate, hidden world. But that separation is partly something we maintain ourselves. Every face that stays hidden makes it easier for the culture to keep treating this as something fringe, something suspect, and something that only exists in the shadows because it belongs there.

Culture doesnโ€™t shift from the outside in. It shifts when ordinary people become visible to other ordinary people. And that doesnโ€™t require courage in the dramatic sense. It doesnโ€™t require a declaration or a difficult conversation or a nude photo. It just requires being willing to be a recognisable human being who happens to live this way.

If everyone waits for the culture to change before being visible, the culture never sees enough real people to change.

Thatโ€™s the trap. And weโ€™re all in it together.

Kevin & Corin


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  1. It is funny, the fine line between who we tell and who will judge us! Anyone of our friends who looks at my Facebook feed and sees the nude picture I posted this past weekend of myself holding a watering can and watering a shrub has a pretty good idea that we are nudists. My wife is quite a bit more reserved with her friends as she does charity work. Her girlfriends who have sent me Facebook friend requests think that my wife’s husband is just a daring kind of guy, the rest of my friends think “Oh that’s just Jerry” and it’s just another day and another nude picture. I personally think “true friends” will remain your friends once you tell them about your lifestyle choices, the ones that choose not to accept that you are a naturist weren’t deserving of your friendship in the first place.

  2. Kevin:
    Corin:
    Linda and I agree that if you sing in the shower, that pretty much describes you as a born again, honest to God, nudist. We have a niece who wears her Temple Garment to shower in so God won’t see her naked. (Apparently the Mormon Temple Garment is designed so that you can always have the clean one on before you need to take the old one off)
    My daughter tells me that at a swimming party, all the boys had to be naked and the girls kept their suits on. The boys were lined up to hold hands with a girl as another girl bumped him into the pool so another girl could dance in the water with him as he uprighted. The expression on the boy’s face as he went down was priceless!
    But talk publicly — no way. Gotta be a secret, just among us.

    1. That’s odd. Many devout LDS adults wear temple garments most of the time, including under everyday clothes and often while sleeping. According to official LDS guidance, they remove them for bathing, sex, swimming, exercise, medical care, and other situations where wearing them is not reasonable.

  3. Well well well! I am glad I am not the only one who drapes a blanket over the back of my chair! The leather couch gets cold when you first sit in it naked. I draped my blanket that my wife gave me and she said thatโ€™s what it is there for. I got a towel on my office chair. These show that I am a nudist to my family sort of. I am the only one that will shuck my shirt off in front of everyone and only wearing shorts and thatโ€™s it. Iโ€™m totally nude when I am by myself always. Thatโ€™s all I got to say about that. FKK in the USA! Itโ€™s nude gardening day!! Love your posts!!

  4. For the first half decade of my naturist life, I was pretty open with my family and friends. I think I had enough security in my relationships that I didn’t fear rejection. Most of my co-workers knew. It was just kind of who I was – take it or leave it…. Then Covid happened and I watched families and friendships torn apart by differences in opinion on how it was handled, whether restrictions were reasonable, whether forced vaccinations were safe and if they were safe, were they warranted. I lost friends during the pandemic. People I never thought would leave. People who were part of the long term plan. Since then, I’m a much more guarded version of myself. I guess, boiled down to it’s essence, i find it nearly impossible to trust anyone. The ironic thing is that knowing I’m happier naked than I am clothed didn’t affect most relationships, but we still found a topic that did.

    I’ve changed jobs since then. Made new friends. Changed social circles. The fact that I organize a naturist swim group has me pretty “out there”, so some people know. But I’ve told very few. I’m learning to enjoy people for who they are but still respect that each person has their ultimate issues, and if mine cross lines with theirs, it could be a problem.

    For me, this article isn’t just about naturism. It’s about many of the convictions that make me who I am and the fear of disclosing those things to people I value but with whom I’m still building relationship. And yet even that begs the question, if I’m not really telling them who I am, do I really have a relationship with them at all? The problem with wearing masks is that if people love me, the mask get the love, I get nothing. But if I drop the mask, will the love transfer to the real me? It’s something I’m getting back to being willing to risk.

    1. This might be the most honest comment we’ve received on this article, and we really appreciate you sharing it. The COVID observation cuts deep because you’re right… a lot of people, including ourselves, learned during that period that relationships they thought were solid had conditions attached they never knew about. That changes how you approach trust going forward and we don’t think that’s weakness, it’s just experience.

      The one thing Covid did confirm for us though is that yes, people will leave over differences of opinion. We watched it happen too. And yet here we are. Still standing. Still happy. Still us. Looking back, we didn’t really lose as much as we feared we might. The people who stayed were the right people. That turned out to be enough.

      Your last paragraph is exactly where we landed too. At some point we just decided that being loved for the performance wasn’t enough anymore. We knew the risk. We accepted that some people might not follow us through it. And some didn’t. But the ones who stayed, and the ones we found afterwards, know the actual us. That felt worth it. We understand not everyone is ready for that, and we’re not here to rush anyone. But when you’re ready, it tends to be less catastrophic than the fear suggested it would be.

  5. I would never tell members of our family that Liz and I have been Naturists for 30 years. It is none of their business, and we were introverts. People can’t keep information to themselves and often find it difficult to resist sharing. Her family was the worst. I came from a racing background, and secrecy is second nature

    1. Thirty years is a long time to carry that quietly. And the trust point is one we hear a lot. It’s not always about what people will think, sometimes it’s about what they’ll do with the information once they have it. That’s a real and legitimate concern, especially when you’ve seen how a specific family handles things. The article doesn’t argue everyone should tell everyone. It just asks whether the silence feels like a choice or a weight. Sounds like for you it’s genuinely the former, which is a different thing entirely.

  6. Wow!!! You nailed it. Your “exile” scenario describes what I am going through right now with 4 of the 7 people most close to me. For 2 of the other three, I could not think of breaking their hearts, (As I am 100% sure it would do.) They are nearing the end of life and so I am just waiting until they pass to “come out” more fully. But even at that, the number 1 person in my life, (my wife) is not on board, and is terrified that her friends or family will find out. Such is the life we have to balance when we are naturists.

    1. Thatโ€™s pretty much where Iโ€™m at too! I say embrace the urge !! Prayers to you and your loved ones that are about to pass. Been there alot!!

  7. I enjoy naturism because I feel accepted wholeheartedly. I do not feel judged by the naturist community. I KNOW I am judged by my non-nudist fellow Christians. Most, if not all, Christians who enjoy naturism do not let it be known because family and fellow believers will reject them. Many Christians believe that if someone is nude with another person who isn’t their spouse or their physician, then some kind of sexual sin is occuring. You’ll have better results talking to a rock than convincing them that you’re not engaged in any kind sexual sin. Also, in Romans, chapter 14, we are told that we who are mature Christians can enjoy those things of which we approve, in private. We are told to not shake the faith of someone whose faith is weak. We have family members who are closed-minded and would reject us if they knew we got fully naked with others.
    Most, if not all, of us who are regular readers of OurNaturistLife have seen photos of Kevin and Corin, fully nude. I’m sure we see body parts, but that’s not the reason we subscribe. We read ournaturistlife because we see two people who love each other and put in effort to encourage others who enjoy naturism. Kevin, Corin – I’m sure you both are encouraged by encouraging others. THANK YOU BOTH for all the work you both do! I know it’s appreciated!

    1. Thanks Jeff. What I truly find interesting is the gap between what we hear and what we see. We hear constantly from Christians that the community cannot be naturists. And then we see how many Christian naturist groups actually exist. We’ve heard from hundred on Christians who are naturists all saying the same thing. We’ve heard from pastors who are naturists… who told other pastors about it, only to find out they were too. That tells us there are a lot of Christians out there afraid of each other’s judgment, all practicing this in silence, none of them aware of how many others are doing the same thing. It’s a bit ironic. What strikes us is that the dynamic you describe… practicing something privately while publicly conforming to a community’s expectations… is exactly what this article is about. The fear isn’t the belief itself. It’s the community’s reaction to departing from it. That’s true whether the community is a church or a family dinner table.

      1. I am a Catholic Christian from Europe, so my perspective is that of the religious tradition of the Church of Rome, and I deem that nudity is assuredly not in contradiction with authentic Christian morality.

        In the first centuries after the Incarnation the sacrament of baptism was received completely nude; no external object could be worn because the nudity signified the death of the old Adam and the spiritual rebirth according to the new Adam. The catechumen conquered his shame, which resulted from the sin of the proto-father, removing his clothes, signifying his restoration to innocence and righteousness through the reception of sacramental grace. Now, the ceremony of baptism was public, occurring during the paschal vigil where men and women were gathered, and this practice of baptismal nudity was of apostolic origin; since the holy apostles did not hold nudity within religious ceremony to be immoral, it follows that it is also not inherently immoral outside of religious ceremony. It must also be remembered that during the time of the apostles baptism took place in rivers under the open sky.

        The practice of baptismal nudity remained into the Middle Ages (the Frankish king Clovis was still baptised nude, as is seen in old images), during which it was changed in Western Europe, likely because at that point most people baptised were infants and baptism by pouring water over the head was deemed safer than full immersion into the water. Even so, after the change public nudity was still accepted socially, and in towns and cities there were public baths (when bishops condemned such places, it was because they degenerated into brothels and not because of public nudity).

        For as far as I know, the anti-nudity mentality took shape in the Renaissance era; the public baths disappeared and increasingly there was condemnation of nudity. Gradually this mentality infiltrated the Catholic Church and moral theologians increasingly wrote about covering up the nude form. However, that which was not a moral precept of natural law in Christian antiquity cannot be so now since the Renaissance era. It is necessary to correct the erroneous mindset, and what interests me particularly is how a decent form of clothes free lifestyle can combat the destructive forces of pornography in society.

        Christians are not Gnostics; Gnostics deemed human bodies and other objects of solid matter parts of a world of darkness in conflict with a world of light (physical light of sun and stars), but Christian anthropology recognises soul and body as good, and the body as destined for resurrection after death.

        The church father Saint Hippolytus of Rome wrote about baptismal nudity in antiquity in his work “Traditio apostolica”. In history one can find nudity in stories about Saints; for example, Saint Mary of Egypt lived a penitential and eremitic life nude in the desert, Saint Ethelfleda of Romsey was said to have a custom of standing nude in the river Test at night reciting psalms, and Saint Francis of Assisi took off his clothes after being disinherited by his father.

        1. This is where it gets interesting. You’ve just made our point for us. The anti-nudity position most conservative Christians hold isn’t actually in the early church. It isn’t in scripture in any clear way. It showed up in the Renaissance, got absorbed into religious culture, and then got biblical justification attached to it after the fact. So it’s really not theology. Itโ€™s just culture wearing theology’s clothes.

          And honestly that happens constantly. People find the passages that confirm what they already believe and treat the confirmation as the source. It’s human nature, not unique to Christianity. But it does mean that the moral framework a lot of naturists are afraid of isn’t as ancient or as solid as it presents itself.

          The harder problem though is that knowing this doesn’t fix much at the dinner table. They’re reacting from gut feeling and group identity. The reality is that this argument, however well grounded, can always be countered with a verse. Someone committed to the position that nudity is sinful will find one. Genesis 3, Noah’s nakedness, something. And the counter-argument from baptismal practice or patristic sources won’t land because they weren’t reasoning their way to that position in the first place. They inherited it and found the scripture that confirmed it afterwards. You can’t argue someone out of a position they didn’t argue themselves into.

          The only thing that actually moves that kind of assumption isn’t a better verse. It’s a person they already trust turning out to live differently than they assumed. Which is the whole point of the article.

          1. There certainly is a tendency among people to stubbornly refuse a change of mind in the face of solid arguments; nevertheless, it is important that error be corrected through sound reasoning. For myself, I was vehemently against the idea of public nudity in the past, but I encountered a Catholic in debate who was a naturist, and afterwards I did my own research on the subject of nudity in history and was compelled to change my position.

            But here can be mentioned an important difference between Catholicism and the Protestant tradition of Sola Scriptura. In Catholicism both Sacred Scripture and Apostolic Tradition are believed to be the pillars of divine revelation, and so for Catholicism history is important and cannot be ignored. When I realised that all the great saints and martyrs of Christian antiquity, the heroes of the faith, were unclad at baptism, and that this practice was universal and of apostolic origin, it was untenable for me to continue with the anti-nudity mentality.

            In Protestant circles there is going to be more exclusive focus on the Protestant bibles and less on the church fathers and ecclesiastical history. Even so, in the book of Isaias God told the prophet to walk unclad and barefoot, and a Christian cannot claim that God would have commanded a thing against natural law, so even from Sacred Scripture alone the anti-nudity position is inconsistent.

            I do see geographical differences when it comes to the subject of nudity, though. The existence of nude beaches and resorts seems to be very non-controversial here in the European Union among native Europeans, and Catholic bishops and priests generally do not even mention the subject. Topless sunbathing for women has been a generally accepted practice on European beaches, though it is increasingly under pressure by migrant demographics coming from Islamic countries. In contrast, the subject seems to be more controversial in America.

            With so many detrimental aspects of society, broken families, pornography, human trafficking and exploitation, it is sad that some people will suffer from troubles of conscience for something as innocent as nude sunbathing, with others thinking themselves righteous for condemning the practice as if it is some sort of monstrous crime.

        2. Eleutherius: Truly excellently researched and eloquently stated insight into Christian history on the subject of nudity. You made a clear argument showing that itโ€™s important to examine the guidance in whole and not just cherry pick Biblical verses and then unjustly assigning them a prejudiced interpretation. The Biblical passages you cite and the Apostolic history you reference reminds me of the admonition heard in every American courtroom โ€“ the tell the WHOLE truth when testifying. I would also cite Genesis 2:25. After God had created mankind and determine His creation was all โ€œvery goodโ€ (Gen 1:31), then in Gen 2:25, it says the man and his wife were โ€œboth naked and they were not ashamed.โ€ From the beginning, if God deems us acceptable naked, who are mere mortals to change that? Further, so many try to interpret Gen 3 (The Fall) as God suggesting they should be ashamed for being naked, but the passage never says that. Adam and Eve used their nakedness as an excuse to try to get God to look at something other than what they had actually done wrong. Nakedness in itself was never deemed sinful by God. That said, if a person wants to wear clothes, that’s their choice; however, their opinion should not deprive me of my right to only wear what God deems acceptable — my bare skin. It infuriates me that something so pure (the naked body) has been categorized as evil because a few others who have acted foolishly have messed it up for everyone else.

          A wise man โ€“ a seminary graduate whose life was devoted to religious education โ€“ advised me that it is good to challenge what you believe (and not just religious practices) and determine why you adhere to certain practices (not just because someone told you that you should). He said to thoroughly research why you are doing something you have been told you ought to do (or not do). He added that your belief will either become stronger or you will alter that belief and subsequently the practice that belief may have been driving. Christians often get an unfair broad brush by many who assume we all think everyone should conduct themselves as monks. True Believers are open to correction and seek clarity.

          Thank you, Eleutherius. I see why you chose that name. Very fitting.

  8. Once again, you guys are asking some great questions that prompt deeper thought about naturism and whatโ€™s going on in the heads of those who enjoy it. Thank you so much for your writing.

  9. A few years back, Liz was rekindling her relationship with her sister, from whom she’d been mostly estranged for a while due to a family dispute. And she decided she was going to be completely open with her. So she told her we went to a naturist resort.
    And her sister’s reaction, along with an expression of total shock, was: “You guys are swingers?!?!”
    So Liz had to go to through a tedious explanation of non-sexual nudity; which her sister didn’t entirely buy. She was stuck on the fact that Liz hangs out completely naked around other people; and how “abnormal” and even “kinky” that was to her.

    What a lot of nudists fear is “stigmatization.” Liz and her sister are doing fine; but now there is an underlying notion that Liz and Tony are…a bit “weird and kinky.” But where it is “underlying” for us; for other family members it might be much more “problematic” (for example very religious/conservative family members). So I totally get why some might just find it safer to just “stay mum.”

    1. Our non Naturalist friends don’t mind our lifestyle, but they are a bit curious sometimes. Joan and I love being nude around the house but we are ever so careful. Since I work at night, I come home when Joan’s getting for work, in various states of dress. And when she gets home and undresses I hear the familiar “OH THANK GOD” when she takes her bra off, and everything else off. She’s been like that for the years we’ve been together. As you guessed (Since we’re Naturists) we sleep in the nude, best way to sleep. After all we come into the world naked. She recounted to me her days in high school being the worst her first two years . Teenage girls can be cruel to each other. Some of the girls called her “Tiny tits”, because she was a bit slow for her breasts to develop. She came home crying almost every day she told me. As she recounted, the Summer before starting her Junior year “Mother Nature felt sorry for her and she started to fill out. “. And she told me my self confidence in my body and myself improved. It’s a good feeling, and a great lifestyle……………

  10. Hey there! This is Michael, I read this though it was great! Back in the day as I was learning about nudism. I was learning to except myself. But I shared and tried to be open of me being a nudist. One my mother( she was nurse for 42 years) says she was fine with it but didn’t want to see me. Same thing with my father.the dirty look from my sister. So much for being open. Not everyone is accepting. So Venture out to AANR and belong to Hill Country Nudist here in Austin Texas. So I try find more folks like me whom enjoys being naked and take it as normal. I kinda feel like I in two different worlds and yet I rather be in the nudist world. Again I enjoyed the reading. Have a great day โฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ˜.

    1. Thanks for your comment. We don’t expect to be n7de around family or friends as that’s not their life choices. We just don’t hide that it is something we do. If they don’t accept it that’s fine. It’s their own hangup.

  11. When I “came out,” it was the best feeling ever. Now, I unashamedly proclaim my nudism with a “let the chips fall where they may” attitude. Reactions are mixed when I mention I’m a nudist. My brother had the best response. He said, “I think the Arizona sun finally got to him.”

  12. Joan and I have always been Naturists, we vacation at Naturist Resorts and Proud to be Naturist Grandparents. When we have our Naturist friends over the house, we entertain nude. We have no shame about being Naturists. When our Children and Grandchildren come over we’re all nude. When Joan was pregnant with our daughters, she was nude and so were our daughters when they were pregnant.

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