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Do Naturists Really Want Nudity to Be Normal?

The quiet contradiction many naturists donโ€™t talk about

Normalizing nudity. A smiling woman with short, tousled hair sitting nude outdoors on a sunny day, captured in black and white. The background includes a wooden deck and empty lounge chairs.

Normalizing nudity?

Itโ€™s funny how some of the most interesting conversations weโ€™ve had with other naturists donโ€™t start with a big philosophical debate, but usually from just sitting and watching the world go by for a bit.

This topic came up with some couples at a resort. People just enjoying the sun and the peace, when we started talking about that one phrase you hear in almost every naturist circle: โ€œWe just want nudity to be normalized.โ€

We talk about removing shame, promoting body acceptance, and creating a world where the human body isnโ€™t treated like something scandalous or forbidden. The philosophy sounds simple enough. If people could see nudity as ordinary rather than shocking, a lot of the discomfort around bodies might fade away.

Itโ€™s become such a standard part of the script that we almost say it without thinking anymore. We talk about it as this ultimate finish line where the shame finally vanishes, body acceptance is the default setting, and nobody looks twice if youโ€™re naked pulling weeds in the garden or hitting the hiking trail without a stitch on. It sounds like such a simple, noble goal on paper.

But the more we sat there and thought about the community, the more we started to wonder if thatโ€™s actually what most want deep down.

โ€‹Thereโ€™s this really strange contradiction that you start to notice once youโ€™ve been in this philosophy for a while. If you spend any time in the digital side of the naturist world, it feels like this massive, growing movement thatโ€™s ready to take over the world. Youโ€™ve got thousands of people sharing photos, travel blogs, and these deep, inspiring posts about how freeing it is to live without clothes.

But then you step back into the physical worldโ€ฆ the actual clubs, the advocacy meetings, or the legislative sessions where people are fighting for beach accessโ€ฆ and itโ€™s like the crowd just evaporates. You start to see the same few faces doing all the heavy lifting while the vast majority of naturists seem perfectly content to stay completely invisible.

Itโ€™s almost like weโ€™re a community of secret agents who only take off our disguises once weโ€™re safely behind a fence or on a remote stretch of sand thatโ€™s tucked away from the โ€œrealโ€ world.

โ€‹The Secret Agent Life

โ€‹Itโ€™s actually kind of fascinating when you think about it. During the week, many of the same people sitting around the campfire are accountants, teachers, mechanics, nurses, or business owners going about completely ordinary lives. They mow the lawn, go to the grocery store, wave to the neighbors, and nobody around them has the slightest idea that on the weekend theyโ€™re part of a community where clothing simply isnโ€™t part of the equation.

In a strange way, naturists have become experts at managing two versions of the same life. One version that fits neatly into the expectations of everyday society, and another that only appears once we step into spaces where the rules are a little different.

Weโ€™ve met so many wonderful people over the years who are the life of the party once the clothes come off, but theyโ€™d probably have a heart attack if their neighbor saw them in a naturist magazine or if a coworker found out where they spent their vacation.

And we totally get that. Thereโ€™s still a massive social risk involved in being โ€œoutโ€ as a naturist, and nobody wants to lose their job or have a weird conversation with their in-laws just to make a point about body positivity. But it does make you wonder if weโ€™re actually pushing for a world where nudity is normal, or if weโ€™re just looking for a comfortable place to hide away from a world that doesnโ€™t get us.

In many ways, the modern naturist isnโ€™t fighting societyโ€™s expectations as much as quietly stepping around them.

If we truly wanted the world to change, youโ€™d think thereโ€™d be a lot more of us standing up to be counted, but instead, it feels like most people are happy to let a tiny handful do the talking while they enjoy the perks of the โ€œquietโ€ life.

A couple embraces on a beach during sunset. The woman, partially covered by a turquoise wrap, gazes lovingly at the man, who is wearing a light blue shirt and white shorts.

โ€‹The Low-Key Thrill of the Taboo

โ€‹Thereโ€™s also this sneaky little thought that weโ€™ve been kicking around. Is there something about the taboo itself that we actually enjoy? When something is slightly forbidden or socially unusual, it carries a certain emotional energy. It feels adventurous. It feels different from everyday life. We donโ€™t usually like to admit it because it sounds a bit rebellious or maybe even a little โ€œedgy,โ€ but thereโ€™s a certain energy that comes with doing something thatโ€™s slightly outside the box.

When youโ€™re at a naturist park or a hidden beach, thereโ€™s this shared understanding among everyone there that youโ€™re part of something unique. The quiet uniqueness of naturism may be part of what makes it meaningful. It feels special precisely because the rest of the world isnโ€™t doing it.

If nudity were truly normalizedโ€ฆ if you saw your mailman shirtless and pantless every Tuesday or if the local park was just a sea of naked familiesโ€ฆ that โ€œspecialโ€ feeling might just evaporate. It would just be… ordinary. Like wearing a t-shirt.

And we have to be honest with ourselvesโ€ฆ would we actually miss that little thrill of stepping outside of societyโ€™s expectations whenever we can?

โ€‹Protecting the Sanctuary

โ€‹Thereโ€™s another side to this that we often talk about when weโ€™re reflecting on why we love our little corner of the world so much, and itโ€™s the idea of the sanctuary. We often say we want the whole world to embrace nudity, but if you really stop to think about it, the world out there can be a pretty judgmental and uncoordinated place.

One of the reasons a naturist park feels so safe isnโ€™t just because people are nude; itโ€™s because everyone there has agreed to a certain way of acting. Thereโ€™s a level of respect and a set of unspoken rules about personal space and body acceptance that took decades to build within this community.

If we suddenly saw nudity normalized at the local grocery store or the bank, weโ€™d be bringing in all the chaos of the general public. People who might not share that same โ€œeyes-upโ€ respect or the same commitment to making everyone feel comfortable regardless of their shape or size.

โ€‹It makes you wonder if โ€œnormalizationโ€ might actually be a bit of a โ€œbe careful what you wish forโ€ situation. By keeping our lifestyle a bit separate and protected, weโ€™ve managed to create these little bubbles where the outside worldโ€™s hang-ups donโ€™t apply. If we burst that bubble and let the rest of the world in, we might find that weโ€™ve traded our peaceful sanctuary for a version of nudity that feels a lot more exposed and a lot less respectful.

For a lot of us, the goal might not be to change the whole world, but simply to make sure our little havens stay exactly as they areโ€ฆ safe, quiet, and just a little bit removed from the rest of the noise.

A man walking near three red folding fabric baskets in a grassy outdoor area, with a truck parked in the background and trees surrounding the scene.

The Ghost Town of Online Presence

โ€‹If you look at the naturist world online, it can feel surprisingly large. Social media platforms are full of naturist photos, blogs, travel accounts, and discussions. There are communities where people share experiences, ask questions, and celebrate body acceptance.

But if you step outside those digital spaces, the picture changes dramatically.

We were thinking about the faces of our local club, and a weird thought struck us. There are about 120 members at our home grounds. People weโ€™ve shared meals with, sat around the fire with, and as far as we can tellโ€ฆ Corin and I are the only ones with any kind of visible public presence online.

Itโ€™s a bit of a surreal feeling when you realize that. Youโ€™re part of this thriving, vibrant community on the weekends, but if you went looking for it on the internet, 98% of the people sitting right next to you simply donโ€™t exist in that world. That doesnโ€™t mean the interest isnโ€™t there. If anything, the opposite might be true.

There are likely far more naturists than we realize. They just tend to remain hidden.

Itโ€™s like weโ€™re living in a ghost town where the spirits only show up on weekends, and then they vanish back into their โ€œclothedโ€ lives without leaving a single digital footprint behind. โ€‹It makes you wonder if we just donโ€™t know about their secret accounts, or if the vast majority of our friends are perfectly happy keeping their naturism as a completely analog experience.

Weโ€™ve always felt that sharing our journey was a way to help bridge the gap and show the world that naturism is just normal people living normal lives, but looking at that ratio of two out of 120 really puts things into perspective. It suggests that for most people, the โ€œnormalityโ€ they want isnโ€™t something they need the whole world to see. They just want a private space where they can be themselves, away from the cameras and the keyboards.

Itโ€™s a quiet sort of freedom, and while weโ€™ve personally chosen a louder path, you have to respect the way theyโ€™ve managed to keep their two lives so perfectly separate.

And that same pattern doesnโ€™t just show up online. You see it in clubs and organizations too.

โ€‹The Participation Gap

โ€‹This really comes to a head when you look at the struggle so many clubs and organizations are facing right now.

We see these groups that have been around for decades, fighting for the right to exist, and for the spaces we have. Theyโ€™re often hanging on by a thread because the membership is aging out and the younger generation would rather just use the existing beaches or find a quiet spot in the woods than join a formal organization or club.

This creates a curious situation. A large number of people enjoy the benefits of naturist spaces and freedomsโ€ฆ but only a small number of people actively work to maintain them.

Itโ€™s a pattern that exists in many areas of life, of course. People often appreciate something without feeling personally responsible for protecting it.

It creates a bit of a โ€œfree riderโ€ situation where a lot of people are happy to enjoy the freedoms that previous generations fought for, but they donโ€™t necessarily want to put in the work or the money to keep those spaces alive. Itโ€™s not that people donโ€™t careโ€ฆ itโ€™s just that theyโ€™ve found a way to make naturism work for them in a very private, personal way that doesnโ€™t require joining anything or being an activist.

That leaves the movement in this weird limbo where weโ€™re not quite mainstream, but weโ€™re not quite secret, either.

But when these people who fight for our spaces are goneโ€ฆ who keeps the lights on?

A person swimming underwater, smiling, with bubbles and light reflections visible on the water surface.

โ€‹Maybe Limbo is Fine

โ€‹We arenโ€™t trying to point fingers or act like everyone needs to go out and start a protest, because naturism is ultimately a personal journey for everyone. For some, itโ€™s just about the comfort of being in your own skin without the elastic waistbands and the social pressure.

But itโ€™s worth thinking about whether our actions actually match the โ€œnormalizationโ€ goal we keep talking about. Maybe we donโ€™t actually want nudity to be as common as a pair of jeans. Maybe we like our little secret corners of the world just the way they areโ€ฆtucked away, a bit mysterious, and filled with people who โ€œget itโ€ in a way the rest of the world doesnโ€™t.

So we find ourselves circling back to the original thought that started this whole reflection.

If you woke up tomorrow and nudity was as common and uninteresting as wearing a pair of socks, would you actually miss the ‘specialness’ of our community? Do we really want to be ordinary, or is the fact that weโ€™re doing something a little bit different exactly why we love it so much?

Itโ€™s a bit of a head-scratcher when you really sit down and think about it over a couple of drinks. And honestly, we donโ€™t have the perfect answer. But it sure makes for an interesting conversation.

Kevin & Corin

Ournaturistlife.com

We look at this topic a bit differently here: Will Nudity Ever Be Normalized? Or Are We Asking the Wrong Question?


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  1. My (female) partner and I (male) love the feeling of being a little bit ‘special’ and different, because of our participation in and enjoyment of nudism. We would like everyone to accept it as socially and morally legitimate and allow nudists to ‘do their thing’ but not for everyone to BE a nudist. I know that sounds selfish, but not everybody likes to do the same things anyway… I wouldn’t want to exclude anyone from being a nudist (other than sexual predators, obviously) but I don’t want it to be the norm either.

  2. I don’t see any negatives to it going mainstream. I don’t enjoy it because its taboo, I enjoy the harmony that comes from being a natural part of the creation. The wind interacting with my sweat glands, the sun loosening my joints and creating vitamin D, etc. We are all outcasts to the mainstream to some extent and since my wife is not into it, I’m an outcast even inside the resort as an unaccompanied male. Normalization would remove both those layers for me. As far as the undisireable characters that would be attracted, they are already here in full force. Their presence would be watered down by the new participants.

  3. Corin, how do you keep your hair perfect underwater??? LOL
    When traveling I look at license plates and bumper stickers to pass the time. I do look for the naturist symbol as well. I have not seen one but then again I do not have one on my bumper. Guilty. Thanks for the article. A lot to unpack there.

  4. Kevin and Corbin,

    I have been following your posts for some time. I truly do enjoy the insight you bring concerning naturist challenges. I am – at the moment- only a home naturist. Circumstances havenโ€™t allowed me to visit a resort or beach as of yet.

    Concerning this topic – wow I see this differently. I have felt all along that I would love it if nudism / naturism was socially accepted and โ€œnormalizedโ€. However, I do see that society as a whole may not treat individuals practicing naturism fairly and respectfully. Sad. But true that there are those who would shame and objectify others.

    Thank you for all you do!! Please keep up the great posts!!

      1. I completely agree with you that when people accept female toplessness at the same level as males, naturism will be accepted and recognized as a subculture. Then naturists won’t be harassed, shamed, or humiliated!

  5. What if life was always going the way I wanted things it to be ?? Would I know happiness and contentment if I always had my way??? Why is it people tend to destroy their good situation right in the middle of the best of their lives ? We say its lonely at the top. How are the best moments created? What do you call the good old days? For us its when life is lived in the simplest way after a good degree of great effort. There is no chance common nudity would do any good for todays dressed world. Nothing more sensual than a simple nude week with a spouse you love. I love breaking the rules of all the good fokes dressed prim and proper. We are a naked couple planning naughty things to do. Its a haha moment on the rest of them without spilling the beans on what thats like. If only they knew how good this has become for our relationship. Its not for everyone? Neither should we ever think it could be. The questions I asked earlier are best answered in the nude with like minded and undressed people.

  6. This certainly is an interesting subject. I agree that if Naturism became much more normalized, there would be that group of people with wrong intentions who would cause problems. But I would hope there would be, I don’t know, laws, peer pressure, or something else, that could keep those bad apples from causing too much chaos.
    I also wanted to share a little bit about your 2 out of 120 concern. There is a saying that for churches, about 10 percent of the people do 90 percent of the volunteer work. That is likely true for most areas of life, and as you pointed out, it definitely is in the Naturist environment. But here is why I believe it is even more so in our way of life.
    Not only are we having to deal with the 10% / 90% issue, but of those who would ordinarily participate, you still have a HUGE subset of Naturists that are prevented from participating due to things like,
    Threat of divorce
    Close family members and/or friends ostracizing them
    Loss of child custody
    Loss of job
    Loss of church community (that one happened to me.)
    and many more reasons.

    So…. all this to say that the way things currently stand, it is no wonder there are so few who are able to be open about their naturism, and are staying in the shadows. That is one of the biggest reasons I sincerely hope and pray that our way of life will become more accepted. Maybe then, there will be more available who can step out of the shadows and give more time to the naturist cause.
    Love Your Articles.
    Keep em coming.

    1. I agree with much of what you said and we have written about all of the reasons you mention. My issue is that some are happy to use the spaces but not step up to support them or volunteer their time. And the biggest issue is your statement “the way things currently are”. How do we change them if most choose to hide from the world?

  7. I read an article just like this in a magazine in the 80s!! It said what if we were all allowed to be naked and the clothed were odd. It shows naked people walking around and a man with clothes on that was ashamed! It said that people who were nude was open and honest and the clothed people were trying to hide something like dishonesty and shame with their clothes . I was nude at the time I read the article as I am now today writing this! Your question has been asked over and over throughout time! For me this is what draws me to your articles! There are people out there that are just like me that love to take their clothes off other than the shower. Nudity in the open and normalized will always be a taboo subject. Thanks for reading my posts! Love your posts!

  8. I’ve just realised that my earlier post failed to give an answer to your question! Duh!

    Would the commonplace presence of nakedness in society cause that “specialness” to disappear? That’s a tough one for me personally, because being naked has really never been anything other than unremarkeable, right from childhood. So I’ve not experienced any sense of specialness that others feel.

    I suspect that naturist clubs would continue to lose their relevance. They are fast reaching that endpoint even now in New Zealand. People are realising that $400 a year for the privilege of going to a 3 acre naturist club to take their clothes off isn’t that great a deal when they could have almost the whole of the Coromandel Peninsula for free! It’s a no-brainer, really.

    1. They need to work on legalizing naturism at the social and legal levels. They need to offer discounts on other naturist resorts.

  9. This is a really interesting topic and one that actually can unfortunately be quite divisive in the naturist community. Here in New Zealand, that dividing line is very clear.

    We have 16 Federation-affiliated clubs with their own premises. These are the spaces where the “Out of sight – out of mind” crowd hide away in their comfy spaces behind tall hedges and locked gates. They are mostly not interested in “normalising” nudity in society generally.

    Then there are several “unlanded” groups such as Hauraki Naturally, BoP Naturists, Free Beaches, etc. These are the ones who promote being clothes-free in appropriate public spaces – beaches, hiking trails, cycleways, and other recreational outdoor spaces. Hauraki Naturally runs events such as the World Naked Bike Ride, Mid-winter Polar Plunge and other events to which the general public are invited to take part.

    But what is “normalising” nudity anyway? What does that actually mean? What is normal to one person may not be normal to the next. It’s quite normal for me to wear T-shirts at times, and gumboots around the farm. My Nana wouldn’t be seen dead in a T-shirt! And it’s not “normal” for me to wear a bikini!

    So, while we don’t push for public nudity to be “normalised”, we do advocate for it to be acceptable as a casual “dress code” in appropriate public spaces. It’s not appropriate to wear construction site work clothes to a funeral, or a tuxedo to go scuba diving. There’s a dress code for every occasion, and being naked should be one of them.

  10. When Liz and I go to the resort, there’s an entire “ritual” involved. We choose the day, watch the weather forecast very closely, decide if it’s going to be a day or a weekend. The day before we do our “grooming’ and hang out naked at home. The morning of we pack our bag with sunscreen and a picnic basket, select light clothing that we can easily toss off in the parking lot. When we arrive we check in, get naked and scope out where we’re going to settle. We also see which of our acquaintances is already there and decide how much socialization we’re going to do that day. It’s a whole routinized process; and it’s one of those moments where Liz and I connect through cooperation.

    If nudity was normalized, we’d just be able to walk 20 mins over to the lake and be naked without having to do much preparation at all. Sure, we’d be able to be naked more often; but we’d lose that connection we have through our routinized process. I even think Liz would lose interest in outdoor nudity because of it; because that’s what makes nudism special to her. It’s definitely interesting to think about.

  11. Kevin & Corin,
    One group your piece completely misses are the ones my friend calls “Textile tied Naturists” and I call “Nudists Married to Prudists”. These are people, men mostly but not exclusively, who dare not speak out in public in support of naturism, or in any way attempt to normalize nudity.
    Some can only be nude when they have the house to themselves. Others may be able to be nude with the spouse at home but no one else. Some may occasionally be able to get away to a naturists venue. Some may have an online presence that their spouse is unaware of.
    For the majority their spouse has stated that if their friends, or neighbors, or people at church ever found out that they were married to a nudist they would die of embarrassment.
    To those people, normalized nudity would be a God send. Their spouse would not be embarrassed if they put out the garbage bins, or collected the mail, or washed the car, or mowed the lawn while nude. That would just be “Jim being Jim”. And with nudity normalized the known naturist population would probably double.
    Please keep these “home nudists” in mind when you talk about or push for normalizing nudity. You would be doing a big favor for a large percentage of the population who dare not speak for themselves on a subject they hold very dear.

    1. Gregg, we actually tried to acknowledge that group in the article with our โ€œ2 to 120โ€ example. We completely agree there are far more people quietly practicing nudity at home than those who ever participate publicly.

      Where we struggle a bit is the idea of hiding it from a spouse. For us, naturism has always worked best when itโ€™s built on openness and mutual comfort in a relationship.

      But your comment does reinforce something interesting… if nudity ever became more normalized, many of those โ€œhome naturistsโ€ might suddenly become visible.

  12. Yet another thought provoking article. For me I like the fact that I have another life outside of home and work. Not quite a guilty secret but almost.

  13. Hi Kevin & Corin,
    An interesting post. As I read it strikes me that the same is true in lots of collections of people. We need more protected snow mobile trials, loud online, quiet in meetings and scarce showing up. I think the list is long even if just focused on the outdoors. Hiking trails, biking trails, camping areas and all with loud voices online yet a small team doing the heavy lifting as you said. Something like “It would be great if there were more places I could be naked, hike, hunt, walk, swim and more.” “I hope someone else can make that happen.” Even with civic issues like don’t build a data center by me. No solution of end goal in my post. Just some thoughts. Be well.

  14. Hey you two!
    You have raised an actual question.
    Linda and I were skinny-dipping one evening. I was leaned against our 21-foot round poolside, and she came to wrap her legs around my waist and her arms around my neck, just to say. “We’re disgusting. You know that?”
    Her point was that we share our secret lifestyle but do not broadcast it — that our children nor grandchildren are aware of our secrecy. “Did you ever see your (Gary’s) grandparents naked?”
    That’s just the way naturists (and nudists, lesbians, swingers, etc) live. The generation that practices this, is unaware of previous generations fashion and will likely not concern itself with the younger., who will develop their own lifestyles.
    This is one great question. I will think more on it!

    1. I canโ€™t get my wife in the pool nude but we have fun in the pool which is the same size as yours! Maybe one day! You never know!

  15. I don’t personally know of anyone who is a nudist. My only knowledge of such a thing is on the Internet and magazines. I have heard nudist/naturist mention that they AREN’T trying to make nudity in public common! My observation is that many who are privileged to be able to practice social nudity, enjoy the exclusivity or specialness of it, and are NOT wanting to lose that feeling of being special. This is a sad state of affairs! We should be striving for a society where there are NO laws against public nudity!!! Of course, stores and other businesses, or any privately-owned property can refuse anyone being nude on their premises, BUT they would have no say over people on the sidewalk or street in front of their property! Sadly, it appears that our society is moving in the other direction.

  16. You should check out “Nudism in a cold climate” . It hits aย lot of the questions/thoughts you raise and is about the shift of Nudism from utopian ideals to more of a leisure activity.

    The Participation Gap is one of the biggest issues with naturism at the moment. Reflecting on my own life there never seems like a good balance of time and money.ย 

    The online presence is an interesting one. I feel like the internet has made naturists pictures scary to participate in more and more in the past 20 years,ย even in naturistย magazines/bulletins. But withย  AI in my option there is a good chance to change the online direction of sharing naturist experiences especially on small social media sites focused on naturism (such as naturisthubย and anaturistworld). That is where I have been testing the waters by sharing my naturist experiences online even though I do think the sites are slow and clunky.ย 

  17. Definitely food for thought. Respectfully disagree with this article. I don’t think life in general, and the political and military aspect, has ever been more dire or dangerous. Many countries are led by full blown psychopaths, with weapons to end all life. For the first time, I have serious concerns about humanity surviving the next decade.

    What does that have to do with the Wonderful Weirdos enjoying NATURISM? The philosophy behind NATURISM is based on freedom, respect, equality, family, friends and community. The character traits of naturists are important. We largely reject the materialistic greed and status symbols of wealth the status quo demands and depends upon. My personal belief, as a non drug using hippie, is the rebellious generation of the sixties were correct about everything except drug use.

    Personal note: The person having the largest effect on my forming morals and norms was not a parent, but a friends stepmother. I BELIEVE I KNEW A LIVING SAINT. She raised half the kids in the neighborhood. Always honest, always helpful, always charitable, always working for good. She was considered weird by most parents, but would be the first one contacted for help in an emergency. She loved her Christian faith. She could not understand why people couldn’t be nude on their own property when the weather was nice. Her concern was never false modesty, never exploitive, never an attempt to gain attention. In her view, naturists were practical folks enjoying freedom and comfort. After getting to know this marvelous lady, other adults considered her weird, but very honest and forthright. She was accepted as a lady who considered her body a creation of God, and it was in no way something to be ashamed of when nude.

    Parents should be the teachers for the most important lessons of life. For me, that definitely wasn’t the case. But a magnificent lady who lived her Christian faith, created my moral compass. Her goodness lives on far beyond her life. She had the answers to the important questions of life. One answer was NATURISM.

    I refer to folks involved as Wonderful Weirdos. The values of naturists as the only reasonable alternative values to allow this world to continue. Personally I am not sure we will continue. But one way to help humanity survive is intelligent values based on creating a world based on community and family. NATURISM OFFERS HOPE! NATURISM OFFERS FREEDOM! NATURISM OFFERS RESPECT! NATURISM OFFERS EQUALITY! Can any other philosophy offer such important positive values?

    RESULTS TO BE DETERMINED SOON! AGAIN, PLEASE BE PEACEFUL REVOLUTIONARIES FOR NATURISM. HUMANITY DEPENDS UPON THE PHILOSOPHY AND LIFESTYLE OF NATURISM TO SURVIVE.

    1. Well well well! Naturism has a long way to go before it will ever be the norm! Even though it is a peaceful practice with peaceful people. But the politicians are too busy lining their pockets for that! lol!!

    2. I appreciate the thoughtful perspective. I think what youโ€™re describing is the philosophical side of naturism that many people connect with. The ideas of equality, simplicity, and respect.

      Our article was more about the social dynamics of the community itself and how people interact with the idea of normalization. Itโ€™s interesting to see how many different ways people interpret that question.

  18. Very interesting. I had never thought about the situation. I personally enjoy the information, the special places, the safety. I am not sure about it being totally normal as you said would we lose the respect of others, the safety in the special places, the close ties.

    Luther

  19. Good point ! But I don’t really want to become an activist . I enjoy just being me , being accepted as I am and having my peace . But may be I should become a bit more active , if not an activist , then may be just a promoter.

  20. Being nude is special, something to look forward too at anytime . Itโ€™s nice to fish nude and garden nude to be green of unneeded clothes to dirty . Add swimming nude maybe at the top I
    Of the list . If. We could
    D go the the store or movies not so much . Thanks for another great article. Something to think about and maybe have a conversation with someone about .

  21. I’ve thought along these lines a lot. I have no money to travel, and I have to budget carefully to afford membership in AANR and the local resorts here. Yet I’m also self-employed, have started receiving Social Security, and most of my friends and acquaintances are musicians and poets who are at least open to the concept of natural, respectful nudity. Therefore i have both opportunity and motivation to “preach the gospel” of naturism. So why am I not out on the streets preaching in the nude?

    I feel it’s because I have some sense of how much work and courage it would take to convince the world, or even my own world, to let me live clothesfree. Who can know which of the people we see at work, on public transit, or in church would call the police on us because they think nudity is sexual harassment? And until we convince a critical mass of people that nudity is safe, non-erotic and beneficial, how can we live, work and love free from the stigma and shame about nakedness that’s been woven into our culture?

    Like you, I wish I had a good answer.

    1. I think you nailed the question. “Until we convince a critical mass of people that nudity is safe, non-erotic and beneficial” Who is the “We” that is going to do this part?

  22. This is a very interesting topic for reflection!!!
    But I disagree with several points in your post.
    Nudity cannot become ubiquitous!
    Weather conditionsโ€”it’s not summer everywhere on Earth! – 1)))
    There are various professions where clothing serves as a protective layer. – 2)))
    Nudist communities are uninteresting because they don’t develop or modernize. They cannot provide social or legal protection. And that’s why they’re slowly dying out. -3(((
    Nudist resorts, if they adhere to a strict dress code, will not disappear in any case, but quite the opposite!
    Well, clothing won’t disappear in banks, courts, and government institutions either. The only thing that might change is the business style, which is more tolerant and less strict!!))))
    Like Koversada (Croatia), last year it underwent changes and became Tekstilnaya, only about 30% of its territory remains nudist. But that’s not all; they are separated by a fence, and you can easily move from one area to the other through a gate. When going to the Tekstilnaya, you need to cover up, and everyone else should cover up. When going from the Tekstilnaya to the nudist area, there’s an FKK sign, but no one is rushing to undress; instead, people just walk around dressed and stare, which irritates all or most nudists!!!

    1. I think there might be a small misunderstanding of the question we were exploring. We werenโ€™t suggesting that nudity would ever replace clothing everywhere. As you mentioned, weather, safety, and many professions obviously require it.

      The thought experiment was more about social acceptance. If nudity became generally unremarkable in everyday life, how would that change the atmosphere of naturist spaces and communities?

      Interestingly, your example of Koversada touches on something similar. When spaces shift from being intentionally naturist to more mixed environments, the social dynamics often change. Thatโ€™s part of what we were reflecting on.

      1. ะัƒ ะผั‹ ะฝะต ัะพะฒัะตะผ ะฟะพะฝัะปะธ ะดั€ัƒะณ ะดั€ัƒะณะฐ.
        ะœะฝะต ะฟะพะบะฐะทะฐะปะพััŒ, ะฒ ะฝะตะบะพั‚ะพั€ั‹ั… ะฟั€ะตะดะปะพะถะตะฝะธัั… ,ั‡ั‚ะพ ะฒั‹ ะธะผะตะปะธ ะฒะฒะธะดัƒ ะบะฐะบ ะฟะพะฒัะตะผะตัั‚ะฝัƒัŽ ะฝะฐะณะพั‚ัƒ.
        ะ ะšะพะฒะตั€ัะฐะดะฐ ัั‚ะพ ะถะตั€ั‚ะฒะฐ ะœะฐั€ะบะตั‚ะพะปะพะณะพะฒ ะธ ั‚ะตั… ะบั‚ะพ ะฑะพะธั‚ัั ะฝะฐะณะพั‚ั‹. ะŸะพั‚ะพะผัƒ,ั‡ั‚ะพ ั‚ะฐะผ ะธะฝะบั‚ะพ ะฝะต ั‰ะฐะฝะธะผะฐะปัั ั‚ะพะน ะพะณั€ะพะผะฝะพะน ั‚ะฟั€ะธั‚ะพั€ะธะธะตะน, ะฝะต ะฟั€ะพะดะฒะธะณะฐะปะธ ะธ ะฝะต ะฟั€ะธะดะตั€ะถะธะฒะฐะปะธััŒ ะธะดะตะพะปะพะณะธะธ ะธ ะบัƒะปัŒั‚ัƒั€ั‹ ะะฐั‚ัƒั€ะธะทะผะฐ. ะ•ั‘ ั€ะฐะทะดะตะปะธะปะธ ะฝะฐ ั† ั‡ะฐัั‚ะธ ะธ ะผะตะฝัŒัˆะฐั ะดะพัั‚ะฐะปะฐััŒ ะฝัƒะดะธัั‚ะฐะผ. ะะฝะฐะปะพะณะธั‡ะฝะพะต ะฑั‹ะปะพ ะธ ั ะ’ะฐะปะฐะปั‚ะพะน , ะฝะพ ั‚ะฐะผ ะฝะฐะพะฑะพั€ะพั‚ ะดะพ 30% ะพั‚ะพัˆะปะพ ะบ ั‚ะตะบัั‚ะธะปัŽ ะฐ ะฑะพะปัŒัˆะฐั ั‡ะฐัั‚ัŒ ะพัั‚ะฐะปะฐััŒ ะัƒะดะธัั‚ัะบะพะน. ะŸะพั‚ะพะผัƒ ั‡ั‚ะพ ั‚ะฐะผ ะฟั€ะธะดะตั€ะถะธะฒะฐะปะธััŒ ะบัƒะปัŒั‚ัƒั€ั‹ ะธ ะธะดะตะพะปะพะณะธะธ ะฝะฐั‚ัƒั€ะธะทะผะฐ. ะ˜ ะพะฝะธ ัั‚ะฐะปะธ ะพะดะฝะธ ะธะท ะปัƒั‡ัˆะธั… ะฒ ะฅะพั€ะฒะฐั‚ะธะธ ะธ ะฝะฐะฒะตั€ะฝะพ ะฒ ะ•ะฒั€ะพะฟะต.
        ะ ะฒะพะพะฑั‰ะต ั ะธ ะผะพั ะถะตะฝะฐ ะทะฐ ะฟั€ะธะฝัั‚ะธะต ั‚ะตะปะตัะฝะพัั‚ะธ ะฒ ะผะธั€ะต. ะ˜ ั…ะพั‚ะตะปะพััŒ ั‡ั‚ะพะฑ ะปัŽะดะธ ะฟะพะฝัะปะธ ะธ ะฟั€ะธะฝัะปะธ ะะฐั‚ัƒั€ะธัั‚ะพะฒ ะบะฐะบ ััƒะฑะบัƒะปัŒั‚ัƒั€ัƒ ะบะฐะบะพั‚ะดะตะปัŒะฝัƒัŽ ะบัƒะปัŒั‚ัƒั€ัƒ ะธะปะธ ะตั‰ะต ะบะฐะบ ( ะผะพะถะตั‚ ะบะฐะบ ะฟะพ ะฟั€ะธะผะตั€ัƒ ะ›ะ“ะ‘ะข). ะ“ะปะฐะฒะฝะพะต ั‡ั‚ะพะฑ ะปัŽะดะธ ะฟะพะฝัะปะธ ะบั‚ะพ ะผั‹, ะฐ ั‚ะฐะบะธะต ะบะฐะบ ะผั‹ ะฝะต ะฑะพัะปะธััŒ ะทะฐัะฒะตั‚ะธั‚ัั ะฟั€ะพัั‚ะพ ะธะปะธ ะฒ ะธะฝั‚ะตั€ะฝะตั‚ะต, ั‡ั‚ะพะฑ ะฝะต ะฟะพั‚ะตั€ัั‚ัŒ ั€ะฐะฑะพั‚ัƒ ะธะปะธ ะตั‰ะต ั‡ั‚ะพ ั‚ะพ.
        ะะต ะฒัะต ะถ ะปัŽะดะธ ะผะพะณัƒั‚ ะฟะพะทะฒะพะปะธั‚ัŒ ะตะทะดะธั‚ัŒ ะฒ ะดั€ัƒะณะธะต ัั‚ั€ะฐะฝั‹ ะฝะฐ ะบัƒั€ะพั€ั‚ั‹ , ั„ะธะฝะฐะฝัะพะฒะพ, ะธะปะธ ะฟะพ ั‚ะพะผัƒ ั‡ั‚ะพ ะฝะต ะฒะพ ะฒัะตั… ัั‚ั€ะฐะฝะฐั… ะตัั‚ัŒ ะผะตัั‚ะฐ ะดะปั ะฝะฐั‚ัƒั€ะธัั‚ะพะฒ,ะบัƒั€ะพั€ั‚ั‹ ….

        1. Thank you for taking the time to write such a thoughtful comment. One challenge with conversations like this… especially when weโ€™re communicating across languages… is that sometimes meaning doesnโ€™t translate perfectly. Itโ€™s very possible that a few of our sentences came across differently than we intended.

          We definitely were not suggesting that nudity should exist everywhere or in every context. For us, naturism has always been about culture, respect, and shared understanding within the spaces where it exists. In fact, we often argue that when the philosophy and culture of naturism disappear, the spaces themselves begin to disappear as well. Your examples of Koversada and Valalta illustrate that point very well. Places that maintain a strong naturist culture tend to thrive, while places that treat it as just another tourism product often lose what made them special in the first place.

          We also strongly agree with what you said about people being able to accept naturists as a distinct culture or subculture. One of the challenges we see, especially online, is that many naturists still feel they must remain invisible… afraid that being open about it could affect their job, their reputation, or relationships with others. That fear keeps a lot of people silent, even though there are far more naturists out there than most people realize.

          And you make a very important point at the end: not everyone has the ability to travel to naturist resorts in other countries. For many people, the naturist experience exists only at home, privately, or in small communities. That reality is something we think the broader naturist conversation sometimes forgets.

          So while we may have misunderstood each other in a few places, we think we actually share many of the same hopes… that naturism continues to be respected as a culture, that its philosophy isnโ€™t lost, and that people who feel drawn to it donโ€™t have to hide who they are.

          Thank you again for adding your perspective to the discussion. Conversations like this are how we all keep learning from each other.

  23. ะญั‚ะพ ะพั‡ะตะฝัŒ ะธะฝั‚ะตั€ะตัะฝะฐั ั‚ะตะผะฐ , ะดะปั ั€ะฐะทะผั‹ัˆะปะตะฝะธะน!!!
    ะะพ ั ะฝะต ัะพะณะปะฐัˆัƒััŒ ั ะฝะตัะบะพะปัŒะบะธะผะธ ะผะพะผะตะฝั‚ะฐะผะธ ะฒ ะฒะฐัˆะตะผ ะฟะพัั‚ะต.
    ะะฐะณะพั‚ะฐ ะฝะต ัะผะพะถะตั‚ ัั‚ะฐั‚ัŒ ะฒะตะทะดะต ััƒั‰ะตะน!
    ะŸะพะณะพะดะฝั‹ะต ัƒัะปะพะฒะธั, ะฝะต ะฒะตะทะดะต ะฝะฐ ะ—ะตะผะปะต ะปะตั‚ะพ!- 1)))
    ะ•ัั‚ัŒ ั€ะฐะทะฝะพะณะพ ั€ะพะดะฐ ะฟั€ะพั„ะตัะธะธ ะณะดะต ะพะดะตะถะดะฐ ะบะฐะบ ะทะฐั‰ะธั‚ะฝั‹ะน ัะปะพะน.-2)))
    ะัƒะดะธัั‚ะบะธะต ัะพะพะฑั‰ะตัั‚ะฒะฐ- ะฝะต ะธะฝั‚ะตั€ะตัะฝั‹ ,ะฟะพั‚ะพะผัƒ ,ั‡ั‚ะพ ะพะฝะธ ะฝะต ั€ะฐะทะฒะธะฐะฐัŽั‚ัั ะธ ะฝะต ะผะพะดะตั€ะฝะธะทะธั€ัƒัŽั‚ัŒัั. ะะต ะผะพะณัƒั‚ ะฟั€ะตะดะพัั‚ะฐะฒะธั‚ัŒ ะทะฐั‰ะธั‚ัƒ,ัะพั†ะธะฐะปัŒะฝัƒัŽ ะธ ัŽั€ะธะดะธั‡ะตัะบัƒัŽ. ะ˜ ะฟะพ ัั‚ะพะผัƒ ะพะฝะธ ะฟะพั‚ะธั…ะพะฝัŒะบัƒ ะฒั‹ะผะธั€ะฐัŽั‚.-3(((
    ะัƒะดะธัั‚ะบะธะต ะบัƒั€ะพั€ั‚ั‹, ะตัะปะธ ะพะฝะธ ะฑัƒะดัƒั‚ ะฟั€ะธะดะตั€ะถะธะฒะฐั‚ัŒัั ัั‚ั€ะพะณะพะณะพ ะดั€ะตัะบะพะดะฐ, ั‚ะพ ะพะฝะธ ะฒ ะปัŽะฑะพะผ ัะปัƒั‡ะฐะต ะฝะต ะฟั€ะพะฟะฐะดัƒั‚ ะฐ ะฝะฐ ะพะฑะพั€ะพั‚!
    ะัƒ ะธ ะฒ ะฑะฐะฝะบะฐั… ะธ ะฒ ััƒะดะฐั… ะณะพั ัƒั‡ะตั€ะตะถะดะตะฝะธัั… ะพะดะตะถะดะฐ ะฝะต ะธัั‡ะตะทะฝะตั‚ ะพะดะฝะพะทะฝะฐั‡ะฝะพ, ะตะดะธะฝัั‚ะฒะตะฝะฝะพะต ะผะพะถะตั‚ ะฟะพะผะตะฝัั‚ัŒัั ะดะธะปะพะฒะพะน ัั‚ะธะปัŒ,ะฝะฐ ะฑะพะปะตะต ั‚ะพะปะตั€ะฐะฝั‚ะฝั‹ะน ะผะตะฝะตะต ัั‚ั€ะพะณะธะน!!))))
    ะญั‚ะพ ะบะฐะบ ะฟั€ะธะผะตั€ ะšะพะฒะตั€ัะฐะดะฐ(ะฅะพั€ะฒะฐั‚ะธั) ะฒ ั‚ะพะผ ะณะพะดัƒ ะฟะพั‚ะตะธะฟะตะปะฐ ะธะทะผะตะฝะตะฝะธั ะธ ัั‚ะฐะปะฐ ะขะตะบัั‚ะธะปัŒะฝะพะน, ะปะธัˆ ะพะบะพะปะพ 30% ะตะต ั‚ะตั€ะธั‚ะพั€ะธะธ ะพัั‚ะฐะปะพััŒ ะฝัƒะดะธัั‚ะบะธะผ. ะะพ ัั‚ะพ ะฝะต ะฒัะต ,ะพะฝะธ ะผะตะถะดัƒ ัะพะฑะพะน ะพะณั€ะฐะถะดะตะฝั‹ ะทะฐะฑะพั€ะพะผ, ั‡ะตั€ะตะท ะบะฐะปะธั‚ะบัƒ ะผะพะถะฝะพ ัะฟะพะบะพะนะฝะพ ะฟะตั€ะตะผะตั‰ะฐั‚ัŒัั ั ะพะดะฝะพะน ั‚ะตั€ะธั‚ะพั€ะธะธ ะฝะฐ ะดั€ัƒะณัƒัŽ ,ะธะดั ะฝะฐ ั‚ะตะบัั‚ะธะปัŒะฝัƒัŽ ะฒะฐะผ ะฝัƒะถะฝะพ ะฟั€ะตะบั€ั‹ั‚ัŒัั ะธ ะฒัะต ะฟั€ะธะบั€ั‹ะฒะฐัŽั‚ัŒัั. ะ˜ะดั ั ั‚ะตะบัั‚ะธะปัŒะฝะพะน ะฝะฐ ะฝัƒะดะธัั‚ัะบัƒัŽ ัั‚ะพะธั‚ ะทะฝะฐะบ FKK ะฝะพ ะฝะธะบั‚ะพ ะฝะต ัะฟะตัˆะธั‚ ั€ะฐะทะดะตั‚ัั ,ะฐ ั‚ะฐะบ ะธ ั…ะพะดัั‚ ะณะปะฐะทะตัŽั‚ ะพะดะตั‚ั‹ะผะธ,ั‡ั‚ะพ ะฒัะตั… ะฝัƒะดะธัั‚ะพะฒ ะธะปะธ ะฑะพะปัŒัˆะธะฝัั‚ะฒะพ ั€ะฐะทะดั€ะฐะถะฐะตั‚!!!

  24. Very interesting question. I would have assumed my answer would be โ€œyes, of courseโ€. However as I read your very thoughtful discussion I realized my answer was not so simple. After much consideration I concluded that I would still like the naturist lifestyle to be normal but and this is a major condition, only if humanity had truly evolved to accept and respect nude living according to the code of conduct which we have come to expect and which you articulate so well. Thank you again for introducing this topic and providing some great thinking points. And I sadly donโ€™t believe that humanity is currently ready for nude living as a global norm.

    1. Ron,
      I would assume that if nudity were normalized it could only be with respect and proper conduct being part of the deal. Without those it really isn’t normal.

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